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Isis3D

Post by JuliaDee » Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:07 am

Gorgeous prints, auto support generation, and large build volume.

http://www.3ders.org/articles/20130816- ... ryone.html

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Post by roller » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:56 am

But it's just using the open source software ... support generation has been available for years (on most versions) ... easy support removal is another matter entirely and that is what makes this printer essentially another (largish) reprap derivative I think.

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Post by JuliaDee » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:37 am

roller wrote:But it's just using the open source software ... support generation has been available for years (on most versions) ... easy support removal is another matter entirely and that is what makes this printer essentially another (largish) reprap derivative I think.
I'm an uber-noob when it comes to reprap, but I have noticed on ThingiVerse that folks seem to talk about support with a certain fear and awe, saying things like "I'd print this, but it would need support", or "How did you print that? It looks like it would need support?". Of course, anyone who's cut their teeth on an Up, like myself, just takes auto-generated, easy-to-remove support for granted.

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Re: Isis3D

Post by LonV » Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:04 am

Yeah, similarly in the slicing space, some people look at raft as a waste of time. But I LOVE the raft on my Up! and miss it completely when I'm in the reprap space (I've never printed raft on my reprap that wasn't fused permanently to the piece).

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Re: Isis3D

Post by roller » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:07 am

The issue with support and a print needing support is that support doesn't just come off like you are used to with an Up. It needs to be cut free and trimmed/sanded to smooth off the remnants. So when a reprapper says I wouldn't bother because it needs support it's because they don't want to spend (often literally) hours after the print to remove the support and clean up the print. Same applies to rafts - I was very pro raftless (see my early whines about printing with my doomed Mini) because its another part you need to painstakingly remove on a reprap print.

Skeinforge had great support at least for the last 3 years that produced a high rate of print success ... but the secret sauce of removable support still eludes the reprap community. That's what made the latest Makerware editions a break through for the reprap derivative community ... of course now that they are part of Stratasys do they even count anymore.

Slic3r was one slicer that was an exception in that it didn't do support material for quite some time.

Reprap has focussed more on dual extrusion capability with the idea of doing support with a soluble material.

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Post by JuliaDee » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:43 pm

LonV wrote:Yeah, similarly in the slicing space, some people look at raft as a waste of time. But I LOVE the raft on my Up! and miss it completely when I'm in the reprap space (I've never printed raft on my reprap that wasn't fused permanently to the piece).
I agree, and always print with raft on perfboard. Makes bed level much less critical. Perfboard makes adhesion pretty much a non-issue, and I don't like the mirror finish you get on one side when printing on Kapton.

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Re: Isis3D

Post by roller » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:03 am

and I don't like the mirror finish you get on one side when printing on Kapton.
You should try it when you break your last glass sheet and have to print straight on Kapton on the reprap heated bed so the bottom of every print get a lightly embossed "caution hot surface" or part thereof! :)

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Re: Isis3D

Post by roller » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:43 am

Now this one impresses me at the price ... an all in one fab at home solution.
http://www.3ders.org/articles/20130822- ... -mill.html

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Re: Isis3D

Post by scubamatt41 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:01 pm

This one is not on kickstarter just yet, so pricewise I don't know but it looks nice. But no 3d scanning :?

http://www.mebotics.com/ http://www.mebotics.com/microfactory.html
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Re: Isis3D

Post by roller » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:15 pm

scubamatt41 wrote:This one is not on kickstarter just yet, so pricewise I don't know but it looks nice. But no 3d scanning :?

http://www.mebotics.com/ http://www.mebotics.com/microfactory.html
Yeah, I saw that one first and it does look like a better piece of kit all round but the bang per buck for the fabtotum is pretty awesome provided the quality is passable. So cheap it makes me consider killing the combined CNC/3DP build I was about to start and buying one instead ... hmmm

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