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Hatchbox Filament

Post by TheSik1 » Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:22 pm

Have any of you used Hatchbox plastics? I got some from Amazon and it got good reviews, but I can't seem to get it to print right at all. Is there a better program to use that the one that comes with the printer that has more control?

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Re: Hatchbox Filament

Post by mb20music » Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:42 pm

Are you using a nozzle temperature mod?

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Re: Hatchbox Filament

Post by TheSik1 » Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:04 pm

No how do I do that?

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Re: Hatchbox Filament

Post by TheSik1 » Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:06 pm

I also ordered some filament for Ebay I believe it's GBB band. Will I have the same problems with it based on it needing a different temp to extrude correctly?

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Re: Hatchbox Filament

Post by mb20music » Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:52 pm

The UP! OEM filament has a higher extruding temperature than aftermarket filament such as Hatchbox. The UP! (and Afinia) filaments extrude at 260-270 degrees celcius and most aftermarket ABS is around 210-240.
Zortrax filament is the only other filament I am aware of that extrudes at the same temperature as the UP! and Afinia filament.

Therefore a temp mod is needed for aftermarket filaments, you can make your own with resistors and a switch or you can buy one from http://www.octave.com.


There is also a software mod but I have not tried it.

http://www.pp3dp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=54781

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Re: Hatchbox Filament

Post by TheSik1 » Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:28 am

So there are a few things going wrong here I think. I'm using off brand plastic (ABS) and I also just tried adding fonts to the modeling program and they don't seem to work right. Anyone have any advice on how I can fix some of this?
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Re: Hatchbox Filament

Post by TheSik1 » Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:43 am

mb20music wrote:The UP! OEM filament has a higher extruding temperature than aftermarket filament such as Hatchbox. The UP! (and Afinia) filaments extrude at 260-270 degrees celcius and most aftermarket ABS is around 210-240.
Zortrax filament is the only other filament I am aware of that extrudes at the same temperature as the UP! and Afinia filament.

Therefore a temp mod is needed for aftermarket filaments, you can make your own with resistors and a switch or you can buy one from http://www.octave.com.


There is also a software mod but I have not tried it.

http://www.pp3dp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=54781
I was going to try writing the program in Slicer, but I wasn't sure if it would work or not. There is a drop down box that seems to have other types of printers but not the Up printers. So i wondering if maybe it won't have the right code. Do you have any knowledge for the Slicer program?

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Re: Hatchbox Filament

Post by TheSik1 » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:51 am

This is a screenshot of my current settings for the GBB filament that I'm trying now. I can't say that I'm getting great prints though. Does anyone see anything that looks wrong?
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Re: Hatchbox Filament

Post by TheSik1 » Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:04 am

Does anyone have any info on this?

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Re: Hatchbox Filament

Post by tel » Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:41 am

To start with, your temp at 310 is way too high, dont know the filament but suspect you should be closer to 240. Have you tried the new Studio software that allows you to now vary temp? May be easier to try this first to see if it improves anything (but still need to set the temp around 230-240 I suspect). The filament should tell you the temp range it should print best at. Looking at your settings also I suspect the layer thickness of 0.45 is also not helping, Id go around 0.2 or 0.25.

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Re: Hatchbox Filament

Post by TheSik1 » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:35 am

tegregg wrote:To start with, your temp at 310 is way too high, dont know the filament but suspect you should be closer to 240. Have you tried the new Studio software that allows you to now vary temp? May be easier to try this first to see if it improves anything (but still need to set the temp around 230-240 I suspect). The filament should tell you the temp range it should print best at. Looking at your settings also I suspect the layer thickness of 0.45 is also not helping, Id go around 0.2 or 0.25.

Thank you for your input, I have lowed the temp and had been having good luck until the last few days where I would be lucky to get a few good prints.
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Re: Hatchbox Filament

Post by TheSik1 » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:36 am

Also this is setting for PLA. I'm still figuring out all the other setting (I have a few down at least I think).

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Re: Hatchbox Filament

Post by tel » Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:40 am

For PLA your temp should be even lower. From a quick google, people seem to get best results from Hatchbox PLA at around 215-220 degrees. The other thing is what printer do you have? The UPBox is a lot harder to get PLA working on as you need to try to keep it cool.

I also find the having a fan blowing (low setting) on the print bed (you can use a small free standing fan if its all you have) can help a lot with PLA.
There are also some mods on thingiverse for installing additional fans depending on the printer you may want to look into.

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Re: Hatchbox Filament

Post by TheSik1 » Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:30 pm

I am using the Up Box and normally I run it at about 222 to 225, but I am out of ideas as to why it is acting the way that it is.

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Re: Hatchbox Filament

Post by tel » Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:49 pm

You may want to try installing the new Studio software which can now adjust temp and the set the temp at around 215 with a bed temp of say 10 to see how that goes. Looking at the stringing in the pic you posted, it looks like the temp is too high. Also depending on the size of what you are printing, it can be difficult to get text working properly on a print.

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Re: Hatchbox Filament

Post by TheSik1 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:42 am

Do you by chance have a link to that software or know where I should look?

Thank you for your help.

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Re: Hatchbox Filament

Post by ricks01 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:44 am

TheSik1 wrote:Do you by chance have a link to that software or know where I should look?
http://up3d-dev.github.io/support.html

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Re: Hatchbox Filament

Post by TheSik1 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:47 am

ricks01 wrote:
TheSik1 wrote:Do you by chance have a link to that software or know where I should look?
http://up3d-dev.github.io/support.html

Thank you for the link.

It looks a ton different and for some reason the print area is way to small or out of scale to the parts.

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Post by DrewPetitclerc » Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:32 am

Slightly related topic here.
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=753&p=46639#p44746
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Re: Hatchbox Filament

Post by TheSik1 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:45 am

DrewPetitclerc wrote:Slightly related topic here.
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=753&p=46639#p44746

Nice thank you.

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