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Boluuudo
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Color rolls

Post by Boluuudo » Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:33 pm

I would like to know where I can buy ABS colored rolls for the pp3d Up printer.

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Re: Color rolls

Post by DrewPetitclerc » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:58 am

I've bought from all of these vendors in order and been pleased with every purchase, my top choice is makerbot but I wish they would offer more colors so I've been shopping around, all my first purchases where ABS, now I'm modding my extruder to be more tolerant of PLA (it varies in diameter and is harder) and I'm expanding my selection of PLA and loving it.

http://store.makerbot.com/plastic.html
http://www.makergear.com/products/filament
http://www.mendel-parts.com/index.php/c ... ament.html
http://3dprinterstuff.com/shop/page/1?shop_param=
http://www.faberdashery.co.uk/products-page/
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Re: Color rolls

Post by Boluuudo » Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:49 pm

I'll take a look at the vendors.

Thankx... =)

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Re: Color rolls

Post by Madox » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:41 pm

I've heard about faberdashery and wanted to give them a try, what did you think of them Drew?
Very interesting selection that have....

http://www.faberdashery.co.uk/products- ... ling-gold/ :)

Wait just realized their prices...are quite...expensive...
A standard PLA roll is ~300m but they make it seem 100m is a full roll....wow Makerbot PLA is a third of the price...

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Re: Color rolls

Post by DrewPetitclerc » Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:17 am

I will probably buy from them once to check out the quality, love the colors, I hope someone here in the US starts carrying these colors and the price will go down.
I tried to purchase a "rainbow" pack but they do not accept AMEX through Paypal so I will have to use a different credit card.
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Re: Color rolls

Post by DrewPetitclerc » Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:26 am

I have to remove one supplier from my favorites: :oops:
http://3dprinterstuff.com/shop/page/1?shop_param=
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The 3 rolls I got from them turned out to be undersized 1.50mm not 1.7mm diameter, it is significant since I've not yet completed my mod to add a spring loaded pinch roller to my extruder so I can not reliably use this material until I make the change, hopefully this week sometime.

All UPers should probably watch out for the manufacturing tolerance of these suppliers as anything under 1.7mm can not be easily tolerated by a standard UP!, once my mod is working reliably I will make the files available to PP3DP and the UP! community.

Sorry for the recommendation before I really used it, they where fast to supply me and I related that to quality when I should not have.

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Re: Color rolls

Post by Postlerferguson » Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:31 pm

Madox -

we've been testing out the Faberdashery PLA with our UP!
the people who work there are really helpful and the colours are great.

the only hitch is that their PLA has an extrusion temp somewhere between 210-230 degrees, and the UP! PLA setting is locked at 200 degrees
so the only way to get it to print is by telling the software that it is actually ABS, so it extrudes it at 265 degrees

it extrudes smoothly this way, but obviously the final quality is poor with lots of warping and slumping.

i would love to see an exposed temperature setting in a future revision of the UP! software
while the presets work amazing well with the UP! ABS material, it seems like PLA is a different beast with lots of different formulations around

would love to hear from anyone who has had other experiences with PLA, or found a source for PLA with extrusion temp of 200

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Re: Color rolls

Post by trebuchet03 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:04 pm

Postlerferguson wrote:the only hitch is that their PLA has an extrusion temp somewhere between 210-230 degrees, and the UP! PLA setting is locked at 200 degrees
so the only way to get it to print is by telling the software that it is actually ABS, so it extrudes it at 265 degrees
Hey Postler...

Before the big software update, this this is how I printed using other formulations of ABS and PLA

http://3dmake.blogspot.com/2011/02/up-t ... tment.html

And results (using ABS)
http://3dmake.blogspot.com/2011/02/up-p ... sults.html

Since they released new software that has PLA built in, it didn't make sense to publish basically the same instructions for PLA....
while the presets work amazing well with the UP! ABS material, it seems like PLA is a different beast with lots of different formulations around
I think once PP3DP starts selling PLA, this won't be an issue. Being locked down isn't a bad thing if your goal is to print well and as fiddle free as possible.
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Re: Color rolls

Post by ata0921 » Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:31 pm

No one has tried Ultimachine PLA here? They have 1.75mm filament in various colors.
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Re: Color rolls

Post by pleppik » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:31 pm

Just to bump this thread and share my experiences. I've bought filament from:

http://www.protoparadigm.com: Prompt shipping, and they seem to take quality control seriously. Read their blog for a much-too-long explanation of why filament diameter is critical. Worked perfectly in my printer. The price is reasonable, and they offer a 30-lb spool by special order which gets the price down to 2.6 cents per gram. On the downside, the selection of colors is limited.

http://www.3dprinterstuff.com: Also shipped in 3-4 days, and offers a wide selection of colors, but I'm not happy with their quality control. One roll I ordered varies from 1.70 mm to 1.55mm on the same roll--this is not working well in my Up, as the extruder can't grip the filament well at those smaller diameters. Another roll had a short segment of too-large filament but is otherwise within tolerances.

I keep hoping Makerbot will get some of their filament in stock, but they seem to be perpetually sold out of almost everything.

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