Up! versus Mojo

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Up! versus Mojo

Post by Lawrence » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:23 am

Hi all
I wanted to compare the quality of print possible on the Up! with a much more expensive alternative.
I recently received a Mojo sellers sample of the Twisted Bottle.
So, today I printed the twisted bottle I had downloaded from Thingiverse:
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:12278

Settings were: Layers = 0.15mm, and Quality = Fine
The print size was identical to the sample I had received.
The Up! print was printed using the Gekko sheet.
Print time was 1 hr 40 minutes

Results were:
1. Less visible layering on the Up! print
2. The walls were slightly thicker on the Mojo sample.
3. The Mojo sample has a more glossy finish.
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The Up! print still on the Gekko sheet with the Mojo sample in the foreground
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Overall, in my opinion the Mojo sample is slightly better than the Up! print, and considering it was printed on a machine about 7 times the price of the Up! and using ABS Plus filament that is 4 - 5 times the price of genuine Up! filament, I think the Up! did well in the comparison.

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Re: Up! versus Mojo

Post by amd-tec » Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:41 pm

Could you show the bottom surfaces of bottle and the top surface of caps.
I think the main difference are how the corners are build and how they are filled, there the SSYS machines
do the great job
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Re: Up! versus Mojo

Post by amd-tec » Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:43 pm

Could you show the bottom surfaces of bottle and the top surface of caps.
I think the main difference are how the corners are build and how they are filled, there the SSYS machines
do the great job
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Re: Up! versus Mojo

Post by Lawrence » Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:30 am

Hi

below is a close up of both top and bottom of the Up! print (on left) and the Mojo print (on right).
Note that in my enthusiasm I had already coated the Up! print with a clear acrylic coating, so a little more shiny than when printed.
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In my opinion the layer quality is similar, and with the clear acrylic the Up! print is visually very similar to the Mojo print.

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Re: Up! versus Mojo

Post by Numonic » Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:49 am

The Ups print are awesome! Gotta say side by side I'm so excited and amazed hope my figures will come out with great quality.:)

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Re: Up! versus Mojo

Post by amd-tec » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:32 am

Lawrence wrote:Hi

below is a close up of both top and bottom of the Up! print (on left) and the Mojo print (on right).
Note that in my enthusiasm I had already coated the Up! print with a clear acrylic coating, so a little more shiny than when printed.
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In my opinion the layer quality is similar, and with the clear acrylic the Up! print is visually very similar to the Mojo print.

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That UP!model looks nice!Seems that I need print the bottle with 0,15mm layer to do new comparing.
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Re: Up! versus Mojo

Post by wackojacko » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:49 pm

Even on the Mini the bottle prints as good as the Mojo bottle. This is a testament the value for money when you purchase an UP. The Mojo software is very limiting and always prints with a solid setting. If you thought the wish list was long for the UP software, you can only imagine how long the Mojo wish list is.
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Re: Up! versus Mojo

Post by amd-tec » Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:41 am

wackojacko wrote:Even on the Mini the bottle prints as good as the Mojo bottle. This is a testament the value for money when you purchase an UP. The Mojo software is very limiting and always prints with a solid setting. If you thought the wish list was long for the UP software, you can only imagine how long the Mojo wish list is.
...and you need to have your computer been connected all
time when printing with Mojo. Well, theres some
good things, soluble support material, easy to move printing head,
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Re: Up! versus Mojo

Post by Lawrence » Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:40 am

Hi all
The Mojo does look good, but at AUD$11,500 more than the Up!, I can very easily live with the Up! and the quality of print it gives.
Also, because I am not printing in high volume, I am only using genuine Up! filament, and find that after spraying the printed model with 4 or 5 light layers of clear or coloured acrylic from an aerosol can, the model looks better and seems to be a little stronger.
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Re: Up! versus Mojo

Post by wackojacko » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:01 am

Hi Lawrence

What brand of clear Acrylic are you using? Sounds awesome.
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Re: Up! versus Mojo

Post by roller » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:24 am

And more significantly, where do you get it from?

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Re: Up! versus Mojo

Post by Lawrence » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:07 am

Hi
I used "White Knight" brand Crystal Clear acrylic spray can (310ml) from Bunnings Hardware - cost $12.95. Only a light spray is used for each coat, so it should last to coat quite a few models.
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Re: Up! versus Mojo

Post by Blown454 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:23 am

The Up! Printer can hold its own against the Mojo on those prints any day! Damn, they look awesome and I am so darn glad I stumbled upon this group and finally purchased my Up printer!! I truly love the little guy, it amazes me everyday with something else I throw at it, and I also love never having to adjust the bed. Set it and forget it since buying over a month ago now. :)

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Re: Up! versus Mojo

Post by eyUP » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:56 pm

The Up! Printer can hold its own against the Mojo on those prints any day! Damn, they look awesome and I am so darn glad I stumbled upon this group and finally purchased my Up printer!! I truly love the little guy, it amazes me everyday with something else I throw at it, and I also love never having to adjust the bed. Set it and forget it since buying over a month ago now.
It's nice to see some positive comments again :)
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Re: Up! versus Mojo

Post by Blown454 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:44 am

I have seen a few hiccups that the Up makers are dealing with since being a (new) member of the Up users, so I know what you mean eyUp! :). I know there are still things that can be improved upon, I am hopeful some of the more advanced features you all have been waiting for make their way in to the options. They have an awesome product that can really be a superstar and I'm happy ro go along for the ride! I wish I would have started with an Up as opposed to ending Up with an Up after so many other types of printers. What a waste of time for me...

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Re: Up! versus Mojo

Post by wackojacko » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:59 am

Lawrence wrote:Hi
I used "White Knight" brand Crystal Clear acrylic spray can (310ml) from Bunnings Hardware - cost $12.95. Only a light spray is used for each coat, so it should last to coat quite a few models.
Regards
Lawrence
Thanks Lawrence, off to Bunnings this weekend looking for a Knight to shine up all my prints ;)
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Re: Up! versus Mojo

Post by juancr » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:05 am

I get glossy surface putting the print in acetone air: I have a bucket with acetona at the bottom, put a glass to support the printed part on it avoiding this part touch acetone. The vapours make the job.
Much time in vapour, more glossy surfaces.
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Re: Up! versus Mojo

Post by CohesivePD » Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:16 pm

juancr wrote:I get glossy surface putting the print in acetone air: I have a bucket with acetona at the bottom, put a glass to support the printed part on it avoiding this part touch acetone. The vapours make the job.
Much time in vapour, more glossy surfaces.
Could you take a picture of your actual setup? I really like this idea as dunking into Acetone directly is a little too risky for my taste.

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Re: Up! versus Mojo

Post by juancr » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:27 am

CohesivePD wrote: Could you take a picture of your actual setup? I really like this idea as dunking into Acetone directly is a little too risky for my taste.
Hi technology :mrgreen: :
(I have to say it took about 2 hours in vapour, for this frog it was quite a lot.)
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Re: Up! versus Mojo

Post by josejuako » Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:31 pm

If the machine is as they say it is a machine for software professionals should be commensurate with the publicity, and I want a real machine and not an artifact like Reprap toy. Let's see if you really can or not.

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