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Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:38 pm
by roller
Just for those that haven't read Make Magazine's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing printing yet you might be happy to know they were very positive about the Up Plus (well it's rebranded version) saying
The Afinia H-Series 3D printer stood out as one of our favorite 3D printers in the challenge ... the Afinia offered the best printing quality with the least amount of effort, overshadowing any of its limitations.
And finally awarded
Best Overall Experience
Also, there was an owl test print that no one noticed had nostrils until it was printed on the Up/Afinia. None of the other printers managed to resolve such detail.

Nice work PP3DP/Up Plus!

Discussion of this new issue is here: http://blog.makezine.com/volume/make-ul ... -printing/
and can be purchased here: http://www.makershed.com/Make_Ultimate_ ... 357377.htm
It's full of 3D goodness and they seem to have done their research fairly well though I'm not done reading it all yet.

Re: Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:00 pm
by Blown454
Ha I knew it! You get this in the hands of those that are trying the other repraps out there (as I did, have, and was!) and you wonder where this printer has been all your 3d printing life :). Like I said before, I wish I would have started with an Up instead of ending Up with an Up, so much wasted time! (I'm gonna have to make that my sig, kinda catchy eh!?)

Re: Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:12 pm
by roller
Even better - I posted before I got to the very end ... I have updated the orignal post. Up Plus gets best overall experience.

Re: Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:37 am
by Lawrence
Hi
it appears from their site that they only sell a hard copy of the 3D printer edition of Make. Does anyone know if they also offer a digital copy.
Otherwise a long wait for it to arrive in Australia.
Regards
Lawrence

Re: Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:59 am
by roller
I think the official Newstand date is the 20th so it probably will appear then. Everyone who attended the Make virtual meetup got a PDF copy.

Re: Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:08 am
by goopyplastic
Apparently the nostil isn't actualy in the model, its just the up! tends to skip printing thin walls ... hence the hole. I believe the distance between the nostril holes is .64mm so the up! just made it a hole :D

Re: Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:30 am
by roller
I skipped over the nostril bit in the magazine but on the video preview they said only one printer printed a hole there and when they went back to the original model they found it had nostrils and that printer was the only one that had made any attempt to define it ... that printer later turning out to be the Up Plus/Afinia H. So did they say that in the magazine? That it was because the Up software overlooked the thinwall? (+1 vote for thin wall and single wall support)...

I did notice the Up seemed to be one of the best on the torture test print.

Re: Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:34 am
by Blown454
+9000 vote for thin wall support on the Up! :).

Re: Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:56 am
by juancr
Blown454 wrote:Ha I knew it! You get this in the hands of those that are trying the other repraps out there (as I did, have, and was!) and you wonder where this printer has been all your 3d printing life :). Like I said before, I wish I would have started with an Up instead of ending Up with an Up, so much wasted time! (I'm gonna have to make that my sig, kinda catchy eh!?)
+ 10^999999999999999999999999999999

Re: Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:13 am
by jmorro
The Afinia H-479 won Make magazine "BEST" award. The Afinia is not just a private labeled UP! Plus. It has updated features as well!!

Re: Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:47 am
by Lawrence
Hi jmorro
Having only recently purchased the inferior AUS/NZ Up! I am wondering what, apart from rebadging the brand, the superior Afinia Up! has over other Up!s
Until I know otherwise, I will take an Afinia win as an Up! win also.
Regards
Lawrence

Re: Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:56 pm
by roller
jmorro please explain your evidence since the Up guys who make them all stated the Afinia and Up were the same, right here, back in August. Make magazine also stated the same in their article.

Re: Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:23 pm
by eyUP
There was a post once explaining the differences - most of which have been incorporated by pp3dp into the latest models anyway...from memory they were:
LED on the front
Improved wind barrier / blower
Large USB socket (not the mini one the older ones had)
Improved packaging of the box it comes in
erm, struggling now, possibly a different paint job (I only say that because they look to be a different shade of red than normal...it might even be metallic?)

Re: Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:06 am
by pleppik
eyUP wrote:There was a post once explaining the differences - most of which have been incorporated by pp3dp into the latest models anyway...from memory they were:
LED on the front
Improved wind barrier / blower
Large USB socket (not the mini one the older ones had)
Improved packaging of the box it comes in
erm, struggling now, possibly a different paint job (I only say that because they look to be a different shade of red than normal...it might even be metallic?)
I think they also changed some of the guts to make it less vulnerable to things like static discharge and ground loops through the USB.

Owners of older models often reported that if they left the USB plugged in during a print, it would often cause the print to mysteriously stop. This has supposedly been fixed.

Re: Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:00 am
by roller
I think there is no difference between the Afinia and Up Plus ... I think all the things that were "different" on the Afinia were just because it was the latest model. I believe the latest Up Plus are the same as the latest Afinia and there have been posts from the PP3DP guys to reflect that. In other words, any praise given to the Afinia is 100% applicable to the Plus.

Re: Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:11 pm
by pleppik
roller wrote:I think there is no difference between the Afinia and Up Plus ... I think all the things that were "different" on the Afinia were just because it was the latest model. I believe the latest Up Plus are the same as the latest Afinia and there have been posts from the PP3DP guys to reflect that. In other words, any praise given to the Afinia is 100% applicable to the Plus.
I believe this is correct.

But, the Afinia guys tell me they put a lot of effort into these design improvements and I think they want some credit, too. :)

Re: Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:04 pm
by teamcarlisle
I'm tempted to buy a second Up! and I'm in the US, Money wise its cheaper for me due to shipping (by just a little) to buy one from afinia, but I would be stripping their logos off the printer the moment I got it. I'm still a little annoyed at the way they teased a black friday and cyber monday sale on their facebook, but they never actually had a sale. I missed out on other sales because I was saving money for whatever special they were going to run specifically on those days that they never actually did.

Ok, all griping aside they are still nice printers, lol. What I want to know, if anyone else knows, Can I install future pp3dp firmware updates/ROMS on the Afinia and will the software for pp3dp run the Afinia? I'm looking through the Afinia site, and I dont see any forums, and little in the way of support in general. As far as I can tell this forum is the only one out there for the Up! and the Mini.

Re: Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:34 pm
by JuliaDee
Octave is offering a $150 Visa gift card (use it for anything) on Afinia sales through the end of the year. Yes, pp3dp firmware runs on the Afinia, it is essentially identical to the Up!; the differences are in packaging, accessories, and support.

julia
teamcarlisle wrote:I'm tempted to buy a second Up! and I'm in the US, Money wise its cheaper for me due to shipping (by just a little) to buy one from afinia, but I would be stripping their logos off the printer the moment I got it. I'm still a little annoyed at the way they teased a black friday and cyber monday sale on their facebook, but they never actually had a sale. I missed out on other sales because I was saving money for whatever special they were going to run specifically on those days that they never actually did.

Ok, all griping aside they are still nice printers, lol. What I want to know, if anyone else knows, Can I install future pp3dp firmware updates/ROMS on the Afinia and will the software for pp3dp run the Afinia? I'm looking through the Afinia site, and I dont see any forums, and little in the way of support in general. As far as I can tell this forum is the only one out there for the Up! and the Mini.

Re: Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:11 pm
by teamcarlisle
JuliaDee wrote:Octave is offering a $150 Visa gift card (use it for anything) on Afinia sales through the end of the year. Yes, pp3dp firmware runs on the Afinia, it is essentially identical to the Up!; the differences are in packaging, accessories, and support.

julia
teamcarlisle wrote:I'm tempted to buy a second Up! and I'm in the US, Money wise its cheaper for me due to shipping (by just a little) to buy one from afinia, but I would be stripping their logos off the printer the moment I got it. I'm still a little annoyed at the way they teased a black friday and cyber monday sale on their facebook, but they never actually had a sale. I missed out on other sales because I was saving money for whatever special they were going to run specifically on those days that they never actually did.

Ok, all griping aside they are still nice printers, lol. What I want to know, if anyone else knows, Can I install future pp3dp firmware updates/ROMS on the Afinia and will the software for pp3dp run the Afinia? I'm looking through the Afinia site, and I dont see any forums, and little in the way of support in general. As far as I can tell this forum is the only one out there for the Up! and the Mini.

Thanks Julia, I was aware of the $150 gift card. Their facebook mentioned specific black friday and cyber monday deals. Thats what threw me off because the $150 deal is a general holiday deal. Knowing it will run the PP3DP firmwares makes me happy though. I'll probably get one then :) Oh, and thanks for the quick reply.

Getting back on track of the original discussion. I have really wanted to buy this edition of Make Magazine, but none of the stores in my town carry it. I've been wanting to buy a second printer which is why I wanted to read it. My neighboring town should have it but its an hour drive and I'm actually tempted to make an excuse to drive over just to get the magazine, lol. But then I think, well I've already got the winner, maybe I should just get it again, lol.

Re: Up Plus Review in Make's Ultimate Guide to 3D Printing

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:06 am
by j45on
Hi guys first post :D
Just ordered my up from cool components in the uk.

The PDF version of the make 3d printer review can be bought here
http://www.makershed.com/ProductDetails ... ode=E3DSIP